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VG Thought Let's do this like Brutus. 2016-02-19T01:39:10+00:00 http://forums.vgthought.com/feed.php?f=41 2016-02-19T01:39:10+00:00 2016-02-19T01:39:10+00:00 http://forums.vgthought.com/viewtopic.php?t=1111&p=2227#p2227 <![CDATA[Undertale • Re: Undertale vs. 8-bit standards]]> Statistics: Posted by Yourself — Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:39 am


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2016-02-19T01:27:10+00:00 2016-02-19T01:27:10+00:00 http://forums.vgthought.com/viewtopic.php?t=1111&p=2226#p2226 <![CDATA[Undertale • Undertale vs. 8-bit standards]]>

Undertale imitates 80s console and PC hardware by using low-resolution graphics, monospace fonts, and chiptunes (music primarily made of square, triangle, and sawtooth waves).

Sprites in Undertale are rarely shown at their actual resolution. That is to say, the pixels composing any sprite are larger than the pixels on your screen. In this way, sprites imitate low resolution graphics (bigger pixels = fewer pixels). However, Undertale manipulates its sprites in terms of screen resolution.

There are two resolutions: one observed by the sprite artwork (few large pixels) and one observed by your screen (many small pixels).

For example, watch Froggit's head as it bobs. It will move in increments smaller than the pixels on its sprite. This is because Froggit's head moves in terms of screen resolution, not sprite resolution. Sprites also rotate according to the screen resolution.

This allows sprites to be more expressive than their low resolution art. In the 80s PC RPGs that Undertale imitates, sprites could only move in increments dictated by their low screen resolution. Undertale's art is drawn by that low resolution, but moves in a finer degree.

Undertale references a low-resolution format and performs actions that would be impossible at that low resolution. The Flowey boss fight, on the other hand, breaks the mold entirely. No portion of his graphics appeals to 80s standards.

Undertale's font also references 80s computers and consoles, featuring a monospace font. When Flowey says "Idiot," it is shocking in part because his font breaks this standard. The monospace font sets up an expectation of a simple retro RPG, and his new font breaks that expectation. Appropriate, since this is the moment that Flowey turns from friendly tutorial to would-be murderer.

Later, Sans and Papyrus also defy the font standard. This effect is fun, since we can relate their spoken font to their names. There is no definitive effect on the player beyond this. (If I claimed that this says something about their characters, I would be out on a limb.)

The music often blends chiptune with higher quality instruments, as well. The opening cutscene (climbing and falling in the mountain) contains only standard chiptune instruments, fitting with its setup as just another old-school RPG. After this cutscene, the soundtrack brings in higher quality instruments. The blend is loose, since tracks can have any range of chiptune and regular instrumentation. Even if a track is largely square and triangle waves, it will often have high quality percussion, such as the intro to the regular battle theme.

Undertale's aesthetic approach complements its critique of old JRPGs. Its aesthetics start with an inspiration in 80s hardware, be it graphical or audio limitations. Undertale then deviates on top of that, either manipulating sprites or using instruments in a way that 80s hardware could not.

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2016-02-02T08:32:57+00:00 2016-02-02T08:32:57+00:00 http://forums.vgthought.com/viewtopic.php?t=1095&p=2219#p2219 <![CDATA[Undertale • Re: Chapter 4: Hotland]]> Final Froggit: Has 2 attacks. A wave of flies that stall then home on you. A frog that jumps at you but unlike the Ruins Froggit, it can jump off the walls and ceiling.
Whimsalot: 2 attacks. Butterflies that circle you. Butterflies that rise from the bottom of the screen in quick succession.
Astigmatism: 2 attacks. Orbs that bounce around and get faster over time. Orbs that spin around a moving center point.

Madjick: 3 attacks. An orb that chases you while spawning crosses. Orbs that spawn in the corner and shoot crosses. 3 orbs that chase you but have screen wrapping. This means instead of colliding with the bottom boundary of the shmup zone, they will move to the opposite side.
Knight Knight: 3 attacks.

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2016-02-02T08:06:15+00:00 2016-02-02T08:06:15+00:00 http://forums.vgthought.com/viewtopic.php?t=1096&p=2218#p2218 <![CDATA[Undertale • Re: Chapter 2: Snowdin]]> Snowdrake
Ice Cap
Gyftrot
Lesser Dog
Jerry

Mini-bosses are:
Doggo
Dogamy and Dogaressa
Greater Dog

The boss is Papyrus.

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2016-02-01T00:34:05+00:00 2016-02-01T00:34:05+00:00 http://forums.vgthought.com/viewtopic.php?t=1105&p=2216#p2216 <![CDATA[Undertale • Re: Impromptu Podcast Segment]]> http://madbiology.tumblr.com
http://n8r8.wordpress.com - @uncleeggma

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2016-01-31T19:13:09+00:00 2016-01-31T19:13:09+00:00 http://forums.vgthought.com/viewtopic.php?t=1105&p=2215#p2215 <![CDATA[Undertale • Re: Impromptu Podcast Segment]]> -Shouty
-Adrian
-Wariofan (maybe)

users that would be good to grab:
-Waithwat

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2016-01-31T14:14:26+00:00 2016-01-31T14:14:26+00:00 http://forums.vgthought.com/viewtopic.php?t=1105&p=2213#p2213 <![CDATA[Undertale • Impromptu Podcast Segment]]> Statistics: Posted by Golem — Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:14 pm


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2016-01-27T04:15:40+00:00 2016-01-27T04:15:40+00:00 http://forums.vgthought.com/viewtopic.php?t=1103&p=2210#p2210 <![CDATA[Undertale • Re: Podcast on story]]> Statistics: Posted by Yakoma — Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:15 am


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2016-01-27T01:49:06+00:00 2016-01-27T01:49:06+00:00 http://forums.vgthought.com/viewtopic.php?t=1103&p=2208#p2208 <![CDATA[Undertale • Podcast on story]]> Undertale podcast on story on Saturday, January 30th or Sunday, January 31st, . We can worry about scheduling later.

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2016-01-23T04:11:01+00:00 2016-01-23T04:11:01+00:00 http://forums.vgthought.com/viewtopic.php?t=1101&p=2201#p2201 <![CDATA[Undertale • Re: Podcast 1 - Morality: January 22, 2016]]> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkox8x1LxQ4

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2016-01-22T23:47:23+00:00 2016-01-22T23:47:23+00:00 http://forums.vgthought.com/viewtopic.php?t=1099&p=2200#p2200 <![CDATA[Undertale • Re: Undertale and Discourse]]>
To give the game the benefit of the doubt and assume it's not just being a liar, I guess we'd have to step the discourse back a level and ask how it fits into throwback neo-retro gaming culture. And if I didn't already have a hard time piecing that together with the pacifism theme, I at least don't care enough about that particular topic to try.

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2016-01-22T23:26:21+00:00 2016-01-22T23:26:21+00:00 http://forums.vgthought.com/viewtopic.php?t=1099&p=2199#p2199 <![CDATA[Undertale • Re: Undertale and Discourse]]> Statistics: Posted by Yourself — Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:26 pm


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2016-01-22T17:51:50+00:00 2016-01-22T17:51:50+00:00 http://forums.vgthought.com/viewtopic.php?t=1100&p=2198#p2198 <![CDATA[Undertale • Re: Podcast 2 - Interesting Choices: January 23, 2016]]> Statistics: Posted by Golem — Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:51 pm


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2016-01-22T17:49:25+00:00 2016-01-22T17:49:25+00:00 http://forums.vgthought.com/viewtopic.php?t=1100&p=2197#p2197 <![CDATA[Undertale • Re: Podcast 2 - Interesting Choices: January 23, 2016]]> http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1021834/Be ... ow-Players
http://www.erasmatazz.com/library/game- ... moral.html
http://blog.ihobo.com/2010/08/sicart-ba ... media.html
http://gamescriticism.org/articles/heronbelford-1-2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FYGyVgq5ng
http://www.sirlin.net/posts/sirlin-on-g ... in-stories

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2016-01-22T05:44:16+00:00 2016-01-22T05:44:16+00:00 http://forums.vgthought.com/viewtopic.php?t=1101&p=2196#p2196 <![CDATA[Undertale • Podcast 1 - Morality: January 22, 2016]]> Statistics: Posted by Golem — Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:44 am


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